El Scorchio
6:26 Tue Mar 17
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Just for context, it's worth noting there were only 6 managers in that poll.
Allardyce on 6% was joint 4th with Jurgen Klopp and just behind Arsene Wenger who was on 8%
Mourinho and Guardiola unsurprisingly had 79% of the vote just between the pair of them.
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DrTwinHammer
6:22 Tue Mar 17
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It would not surprise me to see DM here in the summer and it would be a great move
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DrTwinHammer
6:20 Tue Mar 17
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Willtell 6:02 Tue Mar 17
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One former player of SA was quoted as saying that he didn't want to play for SA again but he was OK but a bit hard on youngsters.... "
The quote says he does want to work with him again.
"I've worked with Sam," said one League One player. "He was good, but tough on young kids. I would like to work with him later in my career."
Read more at http://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/48-players-want-jose-their-ideal-manager#Fr1ABBMjkDE6O8CO.99
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Brussels Sprout
6:14 Tue Mar 17
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Willtell - try Googling it: http://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/48-players-want-jose-their-ideal-manager
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Willtell
6:10 Tue Mar 17
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No I didn't you Welshie. I can't remember where though for the life of me but I'll see if I can trace it....
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Brussels Sprout
6:06 Tue Mar 17
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Oi, griffin, mind your language!
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stewie griffin
6:05 Tue Mar 17
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You've just made that up, haven't you Frenchy?
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Willtell
6:02 Tue Mar 17
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A few weeks ago I read a survey of pros as to which manager they would like to have played for. Mourinho got about 50% and Allardyce 6% - mostly from lower leagues.
One former player of SA was quoted as saying that he didn't want to play for SA again but he was OK but a bit hard on youngsters....
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Lily Hammer
5:56 Tue Mar 17
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Sarah Ballpalsy 5:53 Tue Mar 17
Hmmm, then whoever tweets Gold should get a trend going telling him to bust his ball bag to make this happen.
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Lily Hammer
5:54 Tue Mar 17
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Sarah Ballpalsy 5:44 Tue Mar 17
"Just to point out, I don't blame Sam either. I am not anti Sam. I think he gets a lot of stick because people don't like him personally. I think it's time he moved as i personally want the club to go in another direct which I don't believe he can/will do, but nothing against him."
Someone suggested that SB is Mr Polite, but there is no fucking way this can be true reading that comment.
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Sarah Ballpalsy
5:53 Tue Mar 17
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De Boer has said he wants to manage in England - he said so after being asked about the Newcastle job.
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Lily Hammer
5:52 Tue Mar 17
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I've been banging on about unifying the fans, and I must say that the managers of Ajax and PSV, with their tradition of total football and appreciation and use of academies both sound more like the kind of thing we should be hoping for.
Have either of them been dropping hints that they might fancy a stint in English football?
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Sarah Ballpalsy
5:44 Tue Mar 17
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Just to point out, I don't blame Sam either. I am not anti Sam. I think he gets a lot of stick because people don't like him personally. I think it's time he moved as i personally want the club to go in another direct which I don't believe he can/will do, but nothing against him.
The not bring players through and having a different style to how they were taught is not his fault at all, it is down to there not being a clear strategy at the club.
Fact is, Sam knows and always knew his days were numbered here, he was never going to be a long term manager, he has only ever been given two year contracts for a start.
Now a man with clear targets of get up, stay up, top 10 etc didn't have any reason to think of the long term furture of players of the club. He did what he thought was best with the options available to him to meet his targets to get his bonus.
As a fan it is easy to hate that attitude, but look at is dispassionately and you can't blame the man for sticking with what has served him well during his career. If The owners wanted a manager to bring kids through they would have got one. they new exactly what Sam was about, we all did, so it is no surprise that we got exactly that and he is the last person that should get stick for it.
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Side of Ham
5:36 Tue Mar 17
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Stewie Newcastle is closer to Edinburgh than London but you don't see many geordies playing for Scotland or in Scotland.People (fans) and players will flock to the more successful.
Walthamstow regardless of their wanky population being nearer to Spurs is in EAST London (E17). If West Ham had showed enough ambition during the 90's or had a better history than Spurs as a whole then we would be talking about Edmonton being a Cockney Boy town and having a massive following in North London instead of them encroaching our areas and then it stop on the other side of North London due to Chelsea being successful.
The club are showing intent to change this factor and it will help our youth set up massively if the move works.Why do you think Spurs were doing their best to fuck it up for us, as most their academy success and club success in the past has involved East London & South Essex based talent in some form.
Hoddle, Greaves (at his best), Campbell to name a few would have been ours if West Ham's previous regimes had shown the same ambition as Spurs to aim high. It's not as if East London didn't have the population as we were offered Hackney stadium at one point which had regular 100,000 crowds for speedway but knocked it back.
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stewie griffin
5:29 Tue Mar 17
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Whilst I agree with Alex and SB's general TENET, I don't think its a fair criciticism of OAF.
Players like the ones Grant and Zola gave chances to were down to the squad being thin. OAF has had more money, so hasn't found himself so stretched.
Southampton (and this season nSpurs) aside, the path from talented youth to first team regular is a problem that all clubs have to solve.
I would hope that with greater stability, more opportunities will come.
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Steve P
5:26 Tue Mar 17
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You could use that argument about any youth player not making the grade. There's not proof that the argument is sound, but there is a bit of proof that none of the players managed to overcome a false start at West Ham by making it elsewhere.
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El Scorchio
5:24 Tue Mar 17
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Our youth academy isn't a charity. I am sure if they could, they would keep on anyone who had the slightest chance of making it.
They can't. It's a business. They have to make some harsh decisions to let young players go. They have to use best judgement and informed decision to guess which players are most likely to make it. Sometimes it's just not fair to the player either to keep them if they are not going to get a game at West Ham but could do in a lower division.
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Trevor B
5:23 Tue Mar 17
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sarah, that's true. i could also be an astronaut, i was just never given the chance too.
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Sarah Ballpalsy
5:22 Tue Mar 17
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Trevor
No offence but you must have completely misread what me and I think Alex V were saying.
In my opinion not going on to success does not prove that they could never have been successful. So no I can't think of any - but I don't see that as proving anything.
Like I said a number of posts ago, i'm happy toagree to disagree, it's all about opinions.
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Trevor B
5:21 Tue Mar 17
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sighing? great argument.
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